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Narrow beams

Wednesday, May 11th, 2011

Vdub Engineering manufactures these beams from all new material. The beams use strong one piece drawn over mandrel steel tubing, with steel uprights. The beams are fully jig welded on CNC machined fixtures to insure exacting tolerances. Why mess around with ‘cut and shut’ stock beams when you can have a brand new beam for a competitive price.

Beams are supplied with adjusters installed, and can be manufactured in any width you wish (wider or narrower than stock). Urethane bushings are installed for long life. The beam has proper body mounts and a steering stabilizer mount all threaded for stock VW metric bolts. A drill jig is included with each beam to allow you to drill and narrow your torsion springs with common hand tools. As an added bonus, the beam is about 25% lighter than stock.

Priced at $C300 ( no shock towers as pictured), or $c350 for shock

towers (upto 4″ narrow). Includes complete beam with adjusters and urethane bushings, finished in a durable wrinkle finish.

Currently available for Link Pin Type 1’s. Ball joint beams are in the works and you can pre-order for a 10% discount.

Vdub Engineering can also supply new heavy duty tie-rods to complement your beam at $C50/pr.

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Boxster Brake brackets for MK4 golf

Wednesday, May 11th, 2011

These brackets adapts Porsche Boxster calipers (97-04) to MK4 front uprights. You have to use the 1st gen Audi TT rotors (312x25mm). Only works with 1.8T and VR6 cars, will NOT work with 2L or TDi cars. Includes all mounting hardware and banjo bolts to use the VW brake hose. Easy 30min install.

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Services:

Wednesday, May 11th, 2011

Cross Drilling rotors: We can custom cross drill your rotors to custom patterns. CAD designed for symmetry and balance. $c30/rotor

Bolt Pattern Machining: We can machine to almost any bolt pattern: 5-130, 5-114.3, 5-100, 5-112, 4-100 etc.  Pricing on application (ex. Type 1 – 4 bolt disks/drums machined/studded for 5-130mm about $c170/set of 4 with studs. 4-100mm with studs $150)

Narrow beams: (Made new)

Type 1: Starting from $c300

Type 2: Starting from $c600

Narrow beams: (Modify existing, includes adjusters)

Type 1: $230

Pressing balljoints:

Type 1 $50/set

Type 2: $70/set

Link pin rebuilt (Type 1):

Labour only – take apart, clean,  install and ream kingpin bushings, install link pin bushings, clean and paint $100

Link pin rebuilt (Type 2):

Labour only – take apart, clean,  install and ream kingpin bushings, new seals, clean and paint $150.  To lower 3.5″ add $60.  Kingpin machining repair extra if required.

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Vdub Gear

Wednesday, May 11th, 2011

Support VdubEngineering, pick up some of these fine threads!

White $C20 (M or L)

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Custom Brake Details

Wednesday, May 11th, 2011

Custom Brakes – Guidelines
by Lanner Khan

With custom brake kits in Type 1’s (T1), it is important to take into consideration and understand all the factors.

Why brake upgrades?

In my opinion, there are three reasons; brake fade, changing wheel bolt pattern and bling factor.

Brake fade is when your brakes are getting too hot and the brake compound in the pads are gassing out and no longer effective. The temperature of the brakes is exceeding the thermal properties of the friction pad. Your rotors are not cooling because they don’t get a chance to dissipate the heat between brake applications. If your brakes fade, then you need more thermal mass via larger and thicker rotors. For performance applications, vented rotors are a must. Solid rotors are for motorbikes and go-carts in my opinion. If you currently have solid rotors and are experiencing brake fade, switch to a vented rotor. If your vented rotor fades, then you need to improve the cooling or increase the thickness of your disk. Brake fade can also occur from boiling the brake fluid. This condition is not typical of street vehicles. The caliper pistons need to be insulated to prevent this, via titanium pistions or ‘pucks’ inside the existing pistons.

With brakes from other vehicles, your choice of wheels increases dramatically. The 4-130mm bolt pattern isn’t very popular with aftermarket wheel manufacturers. And let us all agree, that the wheel offerings available for the 4-130mm wheel pattern are outdated.

Got 17’s on your car? Got stock drums? Hmm…not very sexy. Big brakes behind big wheels.

Brake Hydraulics

Basic hydraulic theory states that 1) liquids are incompressible and 2) the pressure of a given closed system is the same anywhere within the system.

Pressure[P] (psi) is force [F] (lbs) over area[A] (square inches). If a 1 inch diameter piston is depressed with a force of 150lbs, this will generate a pressure of (150/3.14*.5*.5) = 190.98 psi. If a hose is connected to another piston that has a 0.5″ diameter piston we will see some force multiplication. The force would be the pressure multiplied by the piston area. (190.98psi*.25*.25*3.14)=37.50 lbs. So we see that a smaller piston will generate a smaller force given the same pressure. To summarize for a closed system:

P1= P2 (pressure 1=pressure 2)

F1/A1=F2/A2 (same as above since P=F/A)

So far so good. According to the above, just increase the piston area and you can increase the piston force for the same pressure.

If only life were so simple.

Since hydraulic theory states that liquids are incompressible, the fluid must be displaced. A displaced volume [D] is equal to a movement [M] times ares [A]. So if the same 1 inch diameter piston is depressed by 1 inch, we will displace .785 inches cube of fluid (.5*.5*3.14*1). If a second piston of .5″ diameter was connected, we would see the second piston move by 3.998 inches (.785/(.25*.25*3.14)). So, bigger pistons require more volume. To summarize for a closed system:

D1=D2 (displaced liquid 1= displaced liquid 2)

M1A1=M2A2 (movement1*area1=movement2*area2).

Understanding brake torque

Brake torque is what stops the wheels. The brake torque (ft-lbs) of a wheel is the clamping force (lbs) of the caliper times the disk radius (ft), times the coefficient of friction for the brake pad. The disk radius is measured to the centre of the brake pad.

Clamping force (lbs) is the brake line pressure (psi) times the total piston area of the caliper (square inches). The total piston area of a fixed caliper is the total of all the pistons areas. In a sliding caliper, the total piston area is the total of all the pistons times 2.

The brake line pressure (psi) is calculated from the force applied at the pedal. The pedal force (lbs) is multiplied by the pedal ratio, and divided by the master cylinder piston area (square inches).

If you’re following the story so far you will notice that rotor thickness has nothing to do with brake torque. The rotor thickness is related to the thermal capacity. Also, note that the pad area does not play a part either. Increasing the line pressure is possible by either stepping on the brake pedal harder, or decreasing the master cylinder size.

The system in action

A master cylinder is depressed which pressurizes a fluid. This pressure is transferred to the caliper pistons which in turn push the brake pad onto the disk. Adequate volume is required to insure that the master cylinder does not bottom out before the caliper can generate sufficient brake torque to stop the vehicle. The actual movement of the piston in a caliper is about 0.010″-0.015″. When the force is removed, the square seal in the caliper retracts the piston to remove the clamping force from the rotor. The above two hydraulic laws are ideal. In practice other factors must be considered; swelling of brake hoses, caliper deflections, caliper mounting deflections, compression of fluid, air inclusions in fluid etc.

Brake Bias

Also, some consideration must be paid to brake bias, that is the front to rear braking distribution. Depending on the size of your front and rear caliper pistons, you may alter the existing brake bias of your master cylinder (MC). If you understand brake torque, you will notice that rotor diameter, friction material, caliper piston size all factor into the brake bias equation. Other factors include weight distrubution of the vehicle, center of gravity of the vehicle and tire size. Weight distrubution and center of gravity factor in the dynamic weight transfer during braking. Typical rear static brake bias is only about 20-35%. Remember regardless of all the brake factors, the final word is between the tires and the pavement. With that said, you can use these factors to fine tune your vehicle’s braking characteristics.

If needed, use a proportioning valve to tame your beast. A prop valve is basically just a hydraulic pressure regulator, except that it only kicks in at a certain pressure (knee point). Up to that point, the proportioning valve does not exist (hydraulically speaking). Prop valves only reduce existing pressure. You want to set up the brake system so that under panic braking all wheels lock up the same. Then bias is SLIGHTLY to the front so that the front brakes lock up a LITTLE sooner than the rear ones. (Easier and safer to remedy understeer then oversteer in panic situations).

Depending on your brake setup, it is possible that you will have to add a prop valve to the rear circuit if you have a brake system that is biased towards the rear (rear wheels lock up before front wheels in a panic situation). Prop valves only reduce existing pressure.

Prop valves can be found at any hot rod shop. Wilwood makes a nice little unit that you can purchase directly from them. You will also need some adaptor fittings to accept metric bubble flare lines for installation. Please check local laws regarding prop valves on front circuits.

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944NA to Dropped LinkPin Spindle

Wednesday, May 11th, 2011

Pictured is the kit for 944NA brakes (83-85) onto dropped link pin spindles. If the customer supplies the LP spindles and core 944 hubs, we can machine the hubs for the correct bearings, machine the spindle to suit, fabricate caliper brackets, provide all hardware and seals, install new bearings and include full instructions.

If you don’t have the 944 hubs and dropped spindles, these can be purchased for an additional fee (Please inquire).

$c540

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Wheel fitment guide – Aircooled VWs

Wednesday, May 11th, 2011

Overview: Outlined below are general wheel fitting guidelines. Check Lanner’s wheel fitment article in the June/03 issue of VWTrends.

Strut Front Suspension (Super Beetle):

Strut front suspensions will easily accommodate up to a 7″ wide rim as long as the offset is greater than 38mm. The biggest hurdle to overcome is the coil spring. The stock spring is very wide, and will interfere with the wheel/tire. The strut has to be exchanged for an aftermarket strut that utilises narrower coil springs. Alternatively, rear Honda CRX coils springs very closely match the spring rate of a stock Super, while being significantly narrower. Shown on the right is a 16x7ET40 with 205/45 tires on 72 Super. The front disk (stock VW) was redrilled to 4-100mm pattern and 1/8″ spacers are used for coil clearance. The above mentioned Honda coils replaced the original coils.

Ball Joint (BJ) and Link Pin (LP) front suspension:

Ball joint and link pin suspension can fit a 7″ rim as long as the offset is greater than 38mm. The drums can be redrilled to fit the wheel. However, the rims will be on the edge of the fender and will interfere on lowered vehicles. It is suggested that the front beam be narrowed by at least 2″ to prevent fender rubbing issues. On the right shows a 17x7ET38 rim with 205/40 tires on 74 standard. Front BJ beam narrowed 3″ and lowered via adjusters. The stock drums have been redrilled to 4-100mm.

Rear suspension:

Some small modifications are required to fit 7″ rims on the rear suspension of T1’s. The upper bump stop plate will have to be trimmed slightly to provided tire clearance. Also, the forward most springplate bolt on IRS cars will have to be replaced by either a button-head screw or countersunk flat head screw.

Swing-axle cars with short axles (66 and earlier) will render the wheel too far into the fender and the tire will rub on the springplate. Therefore, you can either switch to long axles, or use a wheel spacer with longer studs.

Here’s the pdf version: WHEELFITMENTGUIDE

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Porsche Brake Identification

Wednesday, May 11th, 2011

Porsche Brake Identification

By: Lanner Khan

Update: Feb 2014

Note: Rotor dimensions are given in mm as diameter x width x overall height.  Caliper piston diameters are given in mm.

Brembo pads:

Big 132×58 964 T3.6

993TT

Medium 132×48 964 RS F

964 T3.3F

993C2 F

993T R

Small 98×44 964 F

964 92+ C2 R

964 C4 R

964 RS R

964 3.3/3.6T R

944T F + R

Mini 64×48 -91 964 C2

Here’s a general listing of Rotor and caliper technical details:

944:

NA: Steel single piston ATE caliper front (56mm) and rear (38mm).  Front vented rotor (282 x 20.4 x 35mm) and rear vented rotor (290 x 20.4 x 71mm). Hub PN: 477.405.605D

Turbo 1986: 4 piston fixed aluminum black brembo caliper, axial moutn front and rear.  front vented rotor (298 x 28 x 45.5mm) and  vented rear rotor (299 x 24  x 71mm). Hub PN: 951.351.605.00.

Turbo 87-89: 4 piston fixed aluminum black brembo caliper, axial mount front and rear.  front vented rotor (298 x 28 x 74mm) and  vented rear rotor (299×24 x ??)87+ Hub PN: 951.341.605.3R

Turbo S: 4 piston fixed aluminum black brembo caliper, radial mount front, and axial mount rear. Front vented rotor (304 x 32mm x ??) and vented rear rotor (299 x 24 mm x ??).

928:

S4: 4 piston fixed aluminum black brembo caliper, radial mount front and axial rear.  front vented rotor (304x 32mm) and  vented rear rotor (299x24mm)

GTS: 4 piston fixed aluminum black brembo caliper, radial mount front (993-351-425-00 Left, 993-351-426-00 Right), and radial mount rear. Front vented rotor (322 x 32mm) and vented rear rotor (299 x 24mm)

968:

no M030: 4 piston fixed aluminum black brembo caliper, axial mount front and rear.  front vented rotor (298 x 28mm) and  vented rear rotor (299x24mm)

968  M030: 4 piston fixed aluminum black brembo caliper, radial mount front, and axial mount rear. Front vented rotor (304 x 32mm) and vented rear rotor (299 x 24mm)

964:

Model Caliper Piston Rotor Rotor Description
C2/C4 Front 964.351.421.02 L

964.351.421.02 R

40/36 964.351.041.02 298×28 Vented
C2 rear – 91 964.352.425.03/05 L

964.352.426.03/05 R

44 964.352.041.02 298×24 Vented
C2 Rear 92+

C4 Rear

928.352.421.03 L

928.352.422.03 R

30/28 964.352.041.02 298×24 Vented
Turbo/ RS Front 965.351.423.01 L

965.351.424.01 R

44/36 965.351.043.00 L

965.351.044.00 R

322×22 Vented/Cross
RS Rear 993.352.421.00

993.352.422.00

34/30 951.352.041.91 298×24 Vented
Turbo Rear 965.352.421.02

965.352.422.02

34/30 965.352.041.00

965.352.042.00

298×28 Vented/Cross
3.6 Turbo

Front

993.351.425.10 L

993.351.426.10 R

34/30 965.351.045.00 L

965.351.046.00 R

322×22 Vented/Cross
3.6 Turbo

Rear

965.352.421.12

965.352.422.12

34/30 965.351.045.00 L

965.351.046.00 R

322×22 Vented/Cross

993:

Model Caliper Piston Rotor Rotor Description
C2/C4 Front 993.351.421.00 L

993.351.422.00 R

44/36 965.351.041.01 L?

928.351.043.60 L?

965.351.042.02 R?

928.351.042.02 R ?

304X32X72 Vented/Cross Vented

Vented/Cross Vented

C2 /C4 Rear 993.352.421.00 993.352.422.00 34/30 964.352.041.02 298x24X65 Vented
C4S/TT  Front 993.351.425.10 L

993.351.426.10 R

44/36 965.351.045.00 L

965.351.046.00 R

322x22x72 Vented/Cross
C4S/TT  Rear 965.352.421.12

965.352.422.12

36/30 965.352.041.00?

965.352.042.00?

298×24 Vented/Cross

Notes: C2S has silver calipers.9 x 24  x 65mm). TTS has yellow TT calipers.

996:

C2/C4: 4 piston fixed aluminum black brembo caliper, radial mount front and rear.  Front vented rotor and Vented Rear rotor

TT: Fixed aluminum yellow brembo caliper, radial mount front Front 6 piston(996 351 432 30, 996 351 431 30) and Rear 4 piston(996 352 426, 996 352 425).  Front vented rotor  and Vented Rear rotor

986:4 piston fixed aluminum black brembo caliper, radial mount front and rear.  Front vented rotor (299x24mm) and Vented Rear rotor (290×20.4)

986S:4 piston fixed aluminum red brembo caliper, radial mount front and rear.  Front vented rotor (318x28x68mm) and Vented Rear rotor (298x24x67mm)

997:

TT: Fixed aluminum red brembo caliper, radial mount front Front 6 piston and Rear 4 piston.  Front vented rotor  (355x??) and Vented Rear rotor

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944T Brakes on CB dropped disk BJ spindle

Wednesday, May 11th, 2011

944T Brakes on CB dropped disk BJ spindle

This kit adapts 86 944T brake components to the CB dropped disk BJ spindle. The hubs are modified to take T1 bearings. Grease seal adaptors allow the use of stock beetle grease seals (PN: 113 405 641B).

The spindles require a significant amount of machining to mount the caliper. The spindle will no longer be able to take stock T1 components.

The kit included machining of YOUR of your hubs to take beetle bearings, fabrication of two caliper brackets, maching of YOUR spindles to accept the caliper bracket, installed TIMKEN bearing races and all required fasteners. This kit is available is two offsets to meet your particular setup.

$540

.Technical Specifications:

Disk 298mmx28mm (’86 only)
Caliper Fixed, 4-piston axial mount
Hub Modified 86 944T
Spindle CB dropped disk BJ
Offset change (side) +0.57″
Bolt pattern 5-130mm
Part Number VDE-010-034

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944T on Bus

Wednesday, May 11th, 2011

44 Turbo brake Kit for T2’s

This kit adapts early turbo (T) Porsche 944 front brakes to a Type II (T2) spindle. You will require the use of 944T calipers, 944 ’86 only hub, and 944 ’86 only front rotors.

The kit includes bearing spacers which are required to mount the Porsche hub to the T2 spindle. The bearing spacers are manufactured from 6061T6 aluminum. The 944 hub is unmodified and uses standard 944 (same as T2) bearings. The hub, disk and caliper are standard 944 items and are not included in the kit. The caliper bracket is manufactured from steel and bolts to the stock spindle with no spindle modifications.

The kit includes 2 inner bearing spacers,2 outer bearing spacers, 2 caliper brackets, all required hardware (metric Grade 10.9) and special grease seals.

(Components included in is pictured on left. Mounted disk and caliper on T2 spindle.)

Technical Specifications:

(For reference only; hub, caliper and rotor are not included in kit).

Disk 298mmx28mm 298mmx28mm
Caliper Brembo 4 piston Brembo 4 piston
Hub ’86 944 T ’86 944 T
Spindle T2 63.5-67 T2 68-70
Offset change (side) ? ?
Bolt pattern 5-130mm 5-130mm
Part Number VDE-010-029 VDE-010-030

(For 71-79 BJ Bus, Use 68-70 drum spindle and above kit.)

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